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Re Mi
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Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.09.30 06:20:00 -
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Consider this, how many alliances have lost their space in the past 3 months? How many people will look at this rcent NC coalition defeat and say that holding space in EvE is impossible or pointless. A larger force was massacred due to lag, that is a fact. The fact that this happens seems to defy the imagination. You can make excuses, you can say whatever you want about pvp skills or planning or servers or anything else, those words fall on deaf ears.
There is a huge problem with this situation, it is symbolic of and emphasizes a much larger trend.
This kind of event undermines the idea of endgame level pvp scenarios in EvE in the minds of players.
An essential ingredient in this game is to suspend your belief, to pretend you are an avatar in a world of internet spaceships. This is a story land and a fantasy. We are intrepid pod pilots making our way in a hostile universe, this is our fictional existence. By killing off the endgame scenario, of cap ships and holding space, as an idea players desire to hold, you burst the bubble that suspends us in this world of imagination. A meta world derived from real life has intruded into our carefully constructed reality, and the bubble we live in may blip out of existence as a result. Our avatars become limited, crippled in thought and distant in our imagination. Once that bubble evaporates, EvE is a chat room that happens to have internet spaceships. People may stay for friends for a time, but the magic will be gone. This is not a situation that can be fixed with a petition at that point.
This was not a victory for anyone. This was an atrocity.
Back on Retainer. I am cheap but not easy. |
Re Mi
Caldari
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.09.30 06:20:00 -
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Consider this, how many alliances have lost their space in the past 3 months? How many people will look at this rcent NC coalition defeat and say that holding space in EvE is impossible or pointless. A larger force was massacred due to lag, that is a fact. The fact that this happens seems to defy the imagination. You can make excuses, you can say whatever you want about pvp skills or planning or servers or anything else, those words fall on deaf ears.
There is a huge problem with this situation, it is symbolic of and emphasizes a much larger trend.
This kind of event undermines the idea of endgame level pvp scenarios in EvE in the minds of players.
An essential ingredient in this game is to suspend your belief, to pretend you are an avatar in a world of internet spaceships. This is a story land and a fantasy. We are intrepid pod pilots making our way in a hostile universe, this is our fictional existence. By killing off the endgame scenario, of cap ships and holding space, as an idea players desire to hold, you burst the bubble that suspends us in this world of imagination. A meta world derived from real life has intruded into our carefully constructed reality, and the bubble we live in may blip out of existence as a result. Our avatars become limited, crippled in thought and distant in our imagination. Once that bubble evaporates, EvE is a chat room that happens to have internet spaceships. People may stay for friends for a time, but the magic will be gone. This is not a situation that can be fixed with a petition at that point.
This was not a victory for anyone. This was an atrocity. |
Re Mi
Caldari
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.09.30 06:25:00 -
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 Originally by: ElrondMD
Your just going to get trolled by whichever entity in eve most recently benefited from a lag induced turkey shoot.
My post is too meta. The more they troll me, the more power I receive.
Back on Retainer. I am cheap but not easy. |
Re Mi
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Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.09.30 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: ElrondMD
Your just going to get trolled by whichever entity in eve most recently benefited from a lag induced turkey shoot.
My post is too meta. The more they troll me, the more power I receive. |
Re Mi
Caldari
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.09.30 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Shardrael
you know what the lag and node crash outright suck, there is no denying it. when it changes the outcome of a battle it is all the more bitter.
however this stuff is not news, it has been happening for as long as I have been playing the game, your only useful option is to suck it up and plan for the next one, maybe your side will be able to log in faster next time? who knows but giving up because of shite servers as far as your enemy is concerned is the same thing as being defeated.
all you can do is get back in the fight and keep fighting tell the servers catch fire.
When you are defending your home and get set on a path, not to lose a battle, to LOSE YOUR SPACE because of faulty game mechanics when you have a capable and credible defense, that is a big problem. How do you defend against a force that by definition of its size leads to only two possible outcomes.
1.) You fill the server to capacity, in which case you are outgunned and die.
2.) You fill the server beyond capacity, in which case the node crashes and you die.
Who wants to play this game?
This process will be repeated until this space is taken over. The outcome is a foregone conclusion no matter what level of forces are brought to bear. This is how end game cap ship scenarios are played out these days. |
Re Mi
Caldari
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.09.30 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: Taldeer uithwe
very strange that only hostile forces get massacred facing lag or node crash. never heard of a bob fleet got destroyed due to that...strange..
Maybe it's because BoB does not run to the forums to whine every time they lose a fleet to lag like they did last week, but NC sure runs to the forums to tell people how uber they are when they turkey shoot BoB. Strange. 
Making this about BoB misses the point. There is a broader issue of fair play at stake here.
Back on Retainer. I am cheap but not easy. |
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Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.09.30 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
if it's impossible to defend, then why not go attack?
Good point. But where do you attack?
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